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Terry's avatar

A "close" loss by Trump to Biden, would be almost as bad as Trump outright winning POTUS again. Why? Here's the deal -

Because the wicked populist "Maga" movement is slowly but surely becoming "controlled opposition" to REAL Christian conservatism, ..not only does Trump need to be discredited politically, but also the same fate must befall the entire "Maga" too.

So what happens if Trump loses to Biden, but it ends in a "close" loss? Unfortunately, this would enable the maga crowd to use excuses--like "election fraud" or "disloyal" DeSantis voters--to keep hope alive that Trump or another maga candidate could somehow still win the Presidency in 2028, and thus, the CON INC establishment would continue to propagate the Maga "agenda" for another 4 yrs, and keep that whole movement alive, ..which would depress the enthusiasm of principled conservatives in the GOP even more than it is now.

So the only sure way to avoid this scenario is for Trump to not just lose to Biden, but to get CRUSHED by him in this next election. This would ensure not only the end of Trump's political career, but likewise the end of maga too.

Otherwise, "maga" will just keep going and going and going in perpetuity until conservatism ceases to exist in the GOP.

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Severe Conservative's avatar

Good points. But it must be balanced by the danger that the crushing will be to the extent that a Dem trifecta does incalculable damage. Ending the Senate filibuster would be devastating. And a lot of the potential damage - amnesty, new states - could not be undone by a future GOP trifecta.

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Terry's avatar

I understand the potential catastrophic nature of a Dem fed trifecta, but my "crushing" was directed only at Trump, ..not to the extent of a Dem take-over of both chambers of Congress. Unfortunately, a (likely) poor Trump presidential campaign is going to hurt the GOP down ballot too. ...because the Republicans as a whole have foolishly made this election revolve ENTIRELY around Trump and his personal, political agenda's.

In this podcast, Daniel Horowitz elucidates-in-detail EXACTLY how Trump actually torpedoes REAL conservatives down-ballot in Republican primary races. And of course, "alt-conservative media" (CON INC) ..NEVER, EVER covers Trump's role in empowering the "RINO'S" he himself helps push into office with his endorsements.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-movement-built-upon-inputs-over-outcomes-1-29-24/id1065050908?i=1000643417656

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RobS's avatar

I'm gently on the opposite side of this (well written) post. I have not voted for Trump twice already, leaving the POTUS spot blank on my ballot. I debate if I should again, but this time, more than the past, I'm wrestling with the idea of 'what the better outcome for the country' might be between the two candidates that we have now. The Harris/Walz ticket is not friendly to my values. Trump himself has serious character flaws (Harris is not exempt), and his foreign policy, spending, and economics are not great, but likely better than Harris/Walz. At this stage, I'm wondering if "Trump 2" is a better (sadly) choice than "Biden/Haris 2".

John Stonestreet was credited with, "We need to think not about the voting for the lesser of two evils, but rather how does our vote lessen evil." I believe now that the "non-MAGA conservatives" can work with and achieve more with a Trump administration than a Harris administration. Perhaps our goal is to keep the rabid Trump fans in check for the betterment of the country. Can our wise words do more for America with Trump/Vance than Harris/Walz? I think we have a better chance.

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